1 00:00:16,390 --> 00:00:14,470 [Music] 2 00:00:19,269 --> 00:00:16,400 in the recent ufo congressional hearings 3 00:00:21,189 --> 00:00:19,279 representative gallagher asked moultrie 4 00:00:24,150 --> 00:00:21,199 and bray if they've ever heard of the 5 00:00:26,230 --> 00:00:24,160 wilson davis documents 6 00:00:28,230 --> 00:00:26,240 as you can see they 7 00:00:29,750 --> 00:00:28,240 said they have not heard of them and 8 00:00:31,750 --> 00:00:29,760 then finally are you aware of a document 9 00:00:33,510 --> 00:00:31,760 that appeared around uh 2019 uh 10 00:00:37,510 --> 00:00:33,520 sometimes called the admiral wilson memo 11 00:00:41,270 --> 00:00:38,790 i am i'm not 12 00:00:43,270 --> 00:00:41,280 um so you're not aware of that i'm not 13 00:00:44,549 --> 00:00:43,280 aware of congressman uh in my 10 seconds 14 00:00:46,229 --> 00:00:44,559 remaining then i i guess i just would 15 00:00:50,389 --> 00:00:46,239 ask mr chairman unanimous consent to 16 00:00:53,270 --> 00:00:52,389 without objection and you can now find 17 00:00:54,189 --> 00:00:53,280 them 18 00:01:00,549 --> 00:00:54,199 on 19 00:01:03,110 --> 00:01:00,559 here tw okie talk two hours wanted to 20 00:01:04,789 --> 00:01:03,120 convince to talk to ewd about what he 21 00:01:08,550 --> 00:01:04,799 told will miller 22 00:01:11,990 --> 00:01:08,560 yep ufo topic crashed retrieved ufo 23 00:01:14,070 --> 00:01:12,000 craft bodies etc mj 12 like ufo 24 00:01:17,590 --> 00:01:14,080 organization or cabal 25 00:01:19,510 --> 00:01:17,600 davis asks what was said tw confirmed 26 00:01:21,990 --> 00:01:19,520 greer miller mitchell gave talk in 27 00:01:24,390 --> 00:01:22,000 pentagon conference room 28 00:01:27,190 --> 00:01:24,400 admiral mike crawford general pat hughes 29 00:01:30,870 --> 00:01:27,200 were present as were others date april 30 00:01:33,030 --> 00:01:30,880 97 ed mitchell said for 997. 31 00:01:36,149 --> 00:01:33,040 after group broke up miller watson 32 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:36,159 talked privately two hours on ufos mj-12 33 00:01:43,990 --> 00:01:41,360 roswell crashed ufos alien bodies etc 34 00:01:47,590 --> 00:01:44,000 tw is intrigued knew about intelligence 35 00:01:50,230 --> 00:01:47,600 on u.s male intel ufo close encounters 36 00:01:54,069 --> 00:01:50,240 and foreign government encounters scene 37 00:01:55,910 --> 00:01:54,079 records told miller 38 00:01:57,830 --> 00:01:55,920 i figured we could take this a little 39 00:01:59,910 --> 00:01:57,840 bit farther 40 00:02:03,910 --> 00:01:59,920 and look at all the evidence in 41 00:02:05,990 --> 00:02:03,920 government records or otherwise on craft 42 00:02:07,670 --> 00:02:06,000 that have crashed 43 00:02:09,990 --> 00:02:07,680 or alien bodies 44 00:02:13,910 --> 00:02:10,000 let's get into it the document is dated 45 00:02:17,110 --> 00:02:13,920 the 27th of april 1953. 46 00:02:19,510 --> 00:02:17,120 its subject is rumors pertaining to 47 00:02:21,750 --> 00:02:19,520 flying saucers which are allegedly 48 00:02:24,470 --> 00:02:21,760 located on the premise of 49 00:02:28,470 --> 00:02:24,480 wright-patterson air force base 50 00:02:29,589 --> 00:02:28,480 on april 25th 1953 ralph e brown master 51 00:02:31,589 --> 00:02:29,599 sergeant 52 00:02:33,350 --> 00:02:31,599 ohio military district fort hayes 53 00:02:34,869 --> 00:02:33,360 columbus ohio was interviewed in 54 00:02:37,589 --> 00:02:34,879 response to a telephone call from 55 00:02:39,270 --> 00:02:37,599 captain plandowski s2 fort hayes 56 00:02:41,750 --> 00:02:39,280 columbus ohio 57 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:41,760 brown related that at approximately 2 58 00:02:47,750 --> 00:02:44,800 200 hours on the 24th of april 1953 he 59 00:02:48,869 --> 00:02:47,760 met and engaged in a conversation with a 60 00:02:51,030 --> 00:02:48,879 blink 61 00:02:52,790 --> 00:02:51,040 the conversation with blank took place 62 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:52,800 while brown was waiting for a check to 63 00:02:56,550 --> 00:02:54,959 be cashed by the bartender dick 64 00:02:58,630 --> 00:02:56,560 walker 65 00:02:59,589 --> 00:02:58,640 of the ionian room 66 00:03:04,070 --> 00:02:59,599 in the 67 00:03:05,910 --> 00:03:04,080 delcher wallock hotel columbus ohio 68 00:03:09,030 --> 00:03:05,920 blank began the conversation by asking 69 00:03:10,790 --> 00:03:09,040 brown casual questions such as where 70 00:03:13,110 --> 00:03:10,800 sources stationed 71 00:03:15,190 --> 00:03:13,120 brown stated that blank then related the 72 00:03:17,430 --> 00:03:15,200 story to him that wright-patterson air 73 00:03:20,149 --> 00:03:17,440 force base dayton ohio has in its 74 00:03:22,949 --> 00:03:20,159 possession three flying saucers two of 75 00:03:26,229 --> 00:03:22,959 which are in serviceable condition and 76 00:03:28,869 --> 00:03:26,239 one in damage condition 77 00:03:31,350 --> 00:03:28,879 wright-patterson air force base 78 00:03:33,509 --> 00:03:31,360 also has the bodies of men who were 79 00:03:35,589 --> 00:03:33,519 aboard these saucers 80 00:03:37,990 --> 00:03:35,599 blank stated that he knew this to be 81 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:38,000 true since he has seen them 82 00:03:42,390 --> 00:03:40,480 brown believed blank said ray patterson 83 00:03:44,550 --> 00:03:42,400 air force base was building a spaceship 84 00:03:47,750 --> 00:03:44,560 but he did not know if this spaceship 85 00:03:49,030 --> 00:03:47,760 was a new one or a flying saucer being 86 00:03:50,789 --> 00:03:49,040 repaired 87 00:03:52,309 --> 00:03:50,799 blank stated that he is connected with 88 00:03:54,630 --> 00:03:52,319 wright-patterson air force base and 89 00:03:57,030 --> 00:03:54,640 therefore 90 00:03:58,869 --> 00:03:57,040 there is not any question as to the 91 00:04:00,470 --> 00:03:58,879 validity of the statements concerning 92 00:04:02,710 --> 00:04:00,480 the saucers 93 00:04:05,110 --> 00:04:02,720 blank stated that the air force 94 00:04:07,270 --> 00:04:05,120 authorities are too perturbed about the 95 00:04:09,990 --> 00:04:07,280 topic and not sure how to release the 96 00:04:12,229 --> 00:04:10,000 information to the public 97 00:04:14,309 --> 00:04:12,239 the authorities are afraid of creating a 98 00:04:16,550 --> 00:04:14,319 general panic if the news is released to 99 00:04:18,390 --> 00:04:16,560 the newspapers the authorities decided 100 00:04:20,789 --> 00:04:18,400 to release the information to the public 101 00:04:22,550 --> 00:04:20,799 by means of individuals going about and 102 00:04:24,790 --> 00:04:22,560 picking out persons whom they believed 103 00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:24,800 are intelligent enough to accept the 104 00:04:29,189 --> 00:04:27,440 story as true 105 00:04:31,189 --> 00:04:29,199 blank related that there is a group of 106 00:04:32,870 --> 00:04:31,199 people in columbus ohio who are planning 107 00:04:34,710 --> 00:04:32,880 what is to be done with the news of the 108 00:04:39,510 --> 00:04:34,720 saucers 109 00:04:43,670 --> 00:04:41,749 brown's impression was the group is 110 00:04:46,070 --> 00:04:43,680 small in number perhaps four to eight 111 00:04:48,469 --> 00:04:46,080 members blank also stated that there is 112 00:04:50,950 --> 00:04:48,479 a doctor in the group and he gave the 113 00:04:54,710 --> 00:04:50,960 impression that the group is composed of 114 00:04:57,430 --> 00:04:54,720 prominent people in columbus ohio 115 00:05:00,070 --> 00:04:57,440 blank animated that the world situation 116 00:05:02,390 --> 00:05:00,080 is so big that by approximately june 117 00:05:04,870 --> 00:05:02,400 1953 there would be a complete change in 118 00:05:06,950 --> 00:05:04,880 world affairs 119 00:05:10,070 --> 00:05:06,960 the korean war would be ended and there 120 00:05:11,110 --> 00:05:10,080 would be no longer any threat of a world 121 00:05:13,430 --> 00:05:11,120 war 122 00:05:15,909 --> 00:05:13,440 blank did not elaborate on this 123 00:05:19,110 --> 00:05:15,919 aforementioned world situation 124 00:05:21,590 --> 00:05:19,120 brown gathered the impression from blank 125 00:05:23,189 --> 00:05:21,600 that because of the superior 126 00:05:25,749 --> 00:05:23,199 intelligence of these men from outer 127 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:25,759 space that the world would unite itself 128 00:05:29,909 --> 00:05:27,600 against them i couldn't help but say to 129 00:05:31,909 --> 00:05:29,919 him just think how easy 130 00:05:33,670 --> 00:05:31,919 his task and mine might be in these 131 00:05:35,749 --> 00:05:33,680 meetings that we held 132 00:05:36,790 --> 00:05:35,759 if suddenly there was a threat to this 133 00:05:39,189 --> 00:05:36,800 world 134 00:05:41,670 --> 00:05:39,199 from some other species 135 00:05:43,830 --> 00:05:41,680 from another planet 136 00:05:45,909 --> 00:05:43,840 outside in the universe 137 00:05:47,189 --> 00:05:45,919 we'd forget all the local differences 138 00:05:49,510 --> 00:05:47,199 that we have 139 00:05:52,710 --> 00:05:49,520 between our countries and we would find 140 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:52,720 out once and for all that we really are 141 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:53,520 all 142 00:05:58,870 --> 00:05:56,639 human beings here on this earth together 143 00:06:00,469 --> 00:05:58,880 brown requested that blank introduce him 144 00:06:02,309 --> 00:06:00,479 to this group but blank stated that 145 00:06:03,670 --> 00:06:02,319 brown would be contacted by the group 146 00:06:07,350 --> 00:06:03,680 soon since 147 00:06:09,029 --> 00:06:07,360 they knew how to get in touch with him 148 00:06:12,469 --> 00:06:09,039 brown gathered the impression that the 149 00:06:13,990 --> 00:06:12,479 group is to contact him shortly 150 00:06:16,390 --> 00:06:14,000 blank left the impression that the group 151 00:06:18,629 --> 00:06:16,400 would positively call on him 152 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:18,639 brown related that he asked blank 153 00:06:22,710 --> 00:06:20,560 whether the men from the saucers were 154 00:06:24,870 --> 00:06:22,720 interplanetary or stellar space 155 00:06:26,790 --> 00:06:24,880 travelers 156 00:06:29,270 --> 00:06:26,800 blank answered that day 157 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:29,280 it is not known whether they refers to 158 00:06:35,110 --> 00:06:31,120 the group in columbus ohio or the air 159 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:37,990 authorities are not sure where the 160 00:06:42,629 --> 00:06:40,800 saucer men originated their travel 161 00:06:45,430 --> 00:06:42,639 when asked if the saucer men came from 162 00:06:47,590 --> 00:06:45,440 beyond pluto blank began to discuss the 163 00:06:49,589 --> 00:06:47,600 facts concerning pluto 164 00:06:51,830 --> 00:06:49,599 he related that pluto is the farthest 165 00:06:54,309 --> 00:06:51,840 planet from the earth and was the last 166 00:06:56,390 --> 00:06:54,319 planet to be discovered 167 00:06:58,710 --> 00:06:56,400 brown related that blank talked as 168 00:07:00,469 --> 00:06:58,720 though he were well versed on the topic 169 00:07:02,390 --> 00:07:00,479 of flying saucers 170 00:07:05,350 --> 00:07:02,400 blink quoted speeds at which saucers 171 00:07:06,950 --> 00:07:05,360 have flown altitudes they have attained 172 00:07:08,950 --> 00:07:06,960 and about the abrupt changes in 173 00:07:10,629 --> 00:07:08,960 direction which saucers are capable of 174 00:07:11,909 --> 00:07:10,639 making 175 00:07:14,469 --> 00:07:11,919 brown believed that most of the 176 00:07:16,629 --> 00:07:14,479 information blank gave concerning speeds 177 00:07:18,950 --> 00:07:16,639 altitudes and changes in direction 178 00:07:21,110 --> 00:07:18,960 blank may have gathered from newspaper 179 00:07:22,710 --> 00:07:21,120 accounts of flying saucers or he may 180 00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:22,720 have gathered the information through 181 00:07:29,430 --> 00:07:26,319 official research with the air force 182 00:07:31,670 --> 00:07:29,440 blank acted as though it was his job to 183 00:07:34,230 --> 00:07:31,680 be well-versed on a topic 184 00:07:35,830 --> 00:07:34,240 brown stated that blank was evasive when 185 00:07:37,110 --> 00:07:35,840 questioned for details concerning the 186 00:07:38,710 --> 00:07:37,120 saucers 187 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:38,720 blank stated that brown would be told 188 00:07:42,550 --> 00:07:40,400 more information when the proper time 189 00:07:45,110 --> 00:07:42,560 came 190 00:07:46,869 --> 00:07:45,120 he was very convincing in his manner of 191 00:07:48,950 --> 00:07:46,879 conversation 192 00:07:50,629 --> 00:07:48,960 brown stated that blank had no objection 193 00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:50,639 to his writing 194 00:07:55,589 --> 00:07:53,520 blank name on a piece of paper 195 00:07:58,710 --> 00:07:55,599 brown gave the following description of 196 00:08:06,469 --> 00:08:03,070 age 30 to 35 weight 170 to 175 height 197 00:08:09,189 --> 00:08:06,479 511-61 general description 198 00:08:11,589 --> 00:08:09,199 blank is a slender well-built individual 199 00:08:14,469 --> 00:08:11,599 with a long oval face blank has straight 200 00:08:16,070 --> 00:08:14,479 brown hair which he parts on the side 201 00:08:18,150 --> 00:08:16,080 when blank smiles his teeth are very 202 00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:18,160 prominent and his upper teeth are very 203 00:08:21,189 --> 00:08:19,120 even 204 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:21,199 blank has a fair complexion blank was 205 00:08:31,350 --> 00:08:24,960 dressed very neatly in a tan garbane 206 00:08:36,149 --> 00:08:33,509 brown stated that blank left the ionian 207 00:08:38,149 --> 00:08:36,159 room abruptly and was not under the 208 00:08:39,430 --> 00:08:38,159 influence of alcohol blank also refused 209 00:08:40,870 --> 00:08:39,440 to drink when brown attempted to 210 00:08:42,630 --> 00:08:40,880 purchase 211 00:08:44,470 --> 00:08:42,640 one for him 212 00:08:48,949 --> 00:08:44,480 after blake departed brown asked the 213 00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:51,030 bartender related that he knew blanken 214 00:08:56,070 --> 00:08:53,760 considers him a 215 00:08:58,470 --> 00:08:56,080 brown believed that blank must come into 216 00:09:00,230 --> 00:08:58,480 the ionian room often since mike knew 217 00:09:02,630 --> 00:09:00,240 him 218 00:09:04,630 --> 00:09:02,640 brown stated that he waited for what he 219 00:09:06,790 --> 00:09:04,640 considered a reasonable amount of time 220 00:09:09,110 --> 00:09:06,800 and then attempted to follow blank 221 00:09:11,990 --> 00:09:09,120 brown again met blank in the washroom of 222 00:09:14,230 --> 00:09:12,000 the delcher wallach hotel but lost him 223 00:09:16,389 --> 00:09:14,240 after blank departed from the wash 224 00:09:19,269 --> 00:09:16,399 probably the most famous uh government 225 00:09:22,710 --> 00:09:19,279 document that pertains to 226 00:09:24,310 --> 00:09:22,720 actually having flying saucers and 227 00:09:26,470 --> 00:09:24,320 bodies 228 00:09:31,590 --> 00:09:26,480 comes from the fbi 229 00:09:34,150 --> 00:09:31,600 and it's dated march 22nd 1950 230 00:09:35,190 --> 00:09:34,160 written from a guy hotel 231 00:09:38,550 --> 00:09:35,200 to 232 00:09:43,829 --> 00:09:38,560 saucers 233 00:09:48,070 --> 00:09:45,910 an investigator for the air force stated 234 00:09:50,150 --> 00:09:48,080 that three so-called flank saucers have 235 00:09:52,150 --> 00:09:50,160 been recovered in new mexico they were 236 00:09:54,949 --> 00:09:52,160 described as being circular in shape 237 00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:54,959 with raised centers approximately 50 238 00:09:59,030 --> 00:09:56,560 feet in diameter 239 00:10:01,269 --> 00:09:59,040 each one was occupied by three bodies of 240 00:10:03,910 --> 00:10:01,279 human shape but only three feet tall 241 00:10:07,590 --> 00:10:03,920 dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine 242 00:10:11,030 --> 00:10:07,600 texture each body was bandaged in a 243 00:10:13,190 --> 00:10:11,040 manner similar to the blackout suit used 244 00:10:15,509 --> 00:10:13,200 by speed flyers 245 00:10:17,190 --> 00:10:15,519 and test pilots 246 00:10:19,670 --> 00:10:17,200 according to mr blank informant the 247 00:10:22,790 --> 00:10:19,680 saucers were found in new mexico 248 00:10:25,990 --> 00:10:22,800 due to the fact that the government 249 00:10:27,910 --> 00:10:26,000 has a very high powered radar set up 250 00:10:30,710 --> 00:10:27,920 in that area and it is believed that the 251 00:10:33,750 --> 00:10:30,720 radar interferes with the controlling 252 00:10:35,829 --> 00:10:33,760 mechanism of the saucers no further 253 00:10:36,710 --> 00:10:35,839 evaluation was attempted by special 254 00:10:40,150 --> 00:10:36,720 agent 255 00:10:42,230 --> 00:10:40,160 blank concerning the above 256 00:10:45,590 --> 00:10:42,240 this next clip i'm going to play for you 257 00:10:47,590 --> 00:10:45,600 comes from a colonel corso who was 258 00:10:49,509 --> 00:10:47,600 a part of the foreign technology 259 00:10:51,509 --> 00:10:49,519 division in the air force 260 00:10:55,190 --> 00:10:51,519 who had a 261 00:10:57,829 --> 00:10:55,200 huge hand in the study of ufos 262 00:11:00,870 --> 00:10:57,839 under project blue book colonel corso 263 00:11:03,110 --> 00:11:00,880 here states how he first came across 264 00:11:06,069 --> 00:11:03,120 alien bodies and i went to the 265 00:11:08,470 --> 00:11:06,079 veterinarian section and one of 266 00:11:10,630 --> 00:11:08,480 a sergeant i knew very well was sergeant 267 00:11:12,870 --> 00:11:10,640 of the guard that night 268 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:12,880 i told sarge how's everything around 269 00:11:15,590 --> 00:11:14,800 here and he said fine sir i told me 270 00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:15,600 those 271 00:11:18,790 --> 00:11:17,600 they told me to be careful to watch this 272 00:11:20,710 --> 00:11:18,800 area because you have a sense of 273 00:11:22,630 --> 00:11:20,720 something sensitive here 274 00:11:24,630 --> 00:11:22,640 he said you want to see it sir 275 00:11:25,910 --> 00:11:24,640 tell me let's go look 276 00:11:28,069 --> 00:11:25,920 and i knew the sergeant right he's a 277 00:11:30,949 --> 00:11:28,079 master sergeant i went back and there 278 00:11:33,110 --> 00:11:30,959 was five crates there like 279 00:11:34,870 --> 00:11:33,120 five or six i think it was five 280 00:11:38,310 --> 00:11:34,880 i lifted one up and here's this body 281 00:11:41,670 --> 00:11:39,590 and 282 00:11:44,150 --> 00:11:41,680 i looked at it about 283 00:11:46,150 --> 00:11:44,160 10-15 seconds not much more than that 284 00:11:48,069 --> 00:11:46,160 so i put it back down and said sarge 285 00:11:51,509 --> 00:11:48,079 come on get out of here now i want to 286 00:11:55,430 --> 00:11:51,519 get you in this next document uh dated 287 00:11:58,150 --> 00:11:55,440 the 12th of august 1952 288 00:12:00,150 --> 00:11:58,160 written to the commanding officer of air 289 00:12:02,470 --> 00:12:00,160 technical intelligence center right 290 00:12:04,550 --> 00:12:02,480 patterson air force base 291 00:12:06,629 --> 00:12:04,560 where the subject is flying saucers at 292 00:12:08,710 --> 00:12:06,639 wright-patterson air force base 293 00:12:11,590 --> 00:12:08,720 ohio 294 00:12:14,870 --> 00:12:11,600 documents were gathered from a friend 295 00:12:16,949 --> 00:12:14,880 ufo researcher robert cofort 296 00:12:19,350 --> 00:12:16,959 the following information was obtained 297 00:12:21,190 --> 00:12:19,360 by a special agent of the district 298 00:12:25,190 --> 00:12:21,200 office and is submitted for your 299 00:12:31,910 --> 00:12:30,069 a1c clyde wheeler 6501 300 00:12:34,069 --> 00:12:31,920 support squadron wright patterson air 301 00:12:37,829 --> 00:12:34,079 force base ohio was interviewed on the 302 00:12:39,110 --> 00:12:37,839 31st of july 1952 and advised that 303 00:12:40,910 --> 00:12:39,120 sergeant 304 00:12:44,310 --> 00:12:40,920 loyal buns 305 00:12:46,790 --> 00:12:44,320 575th field maintenance squadron box 19 306 00:12:48,629 --> 00:12:46,800 selfridge air force base mount clemons 307 00:12:50,629 --> 00:12:48,639 michigan 308 00:12:53,670 --> 00:12:50,639 told him approximately the 10th of june 309 00:12:55,750 --> 00:12:53,680 1952 that he buns knew about the flying 310 00:12:58,150 --> 00:12:55,760 saucers at wright-patterson air force 311 00:13:01,110 --> 00:12:58,160 base at this time approximately the 10th 312 00:13:02,230 --> 00:13:01,120 of june 1952 bunts explained in detail 313 00:13:04,629 --> 00:13:02,240 that he knew the people at 314 00:13:07,030 --> 00:13:04,639 wright-patterson air force face and had 315 00:13:09,190 --> 00:13:07,040 found some flying saucers and also some 316 00:13:10,949 --> 00:13:09,200 bodies inside the saucers 317 00:13:12,949 --> 00:13:10,959 the saucers and bodies were taken to 318 00:13:14,550 --> 00:13:12,959 wright patterson air force base ohio 319 00:13:16,310 --> 00:13:14,560 date unknown 320 00:13:18,870 --> 00:13:16,320 at wright-patterson air force base bunts 321 00:13:20,629 --> 00:13:18,880 explained officials at the radiation 322 00:13:22,949 --> 00:13:20,639 laboratory disassembled the flying 323 00:13:24,550 --> 00:13:22,959 saucers which supposedly came from venus 324 00:13:26,550 --> 00:13:24,560 and the bodies inside the saucers were 325 00:13:28,629 --> 00:13:26,560 taken to the aerial medical laboratory 326 00:13:30,870 --> 00:13:28,639 at wright-patterson air force base for 327 00:13:33,430 --> 00:13:30,880 further study 328 00:13:35,430 --> 00:13:33,440 the discussion of saucers came about as 329 00:13:39,509 --> 00:13:35,440 a result of bunsen's interest in a 330 00:13:41,350 --> 00:13:39,519 project that a1c wheeler was working on 331 00:13:43,670 --> 00:13:41,360 and also as a result of bunsen's 332 00:13:46,230 --> 00:13:43,680 knowledge of wheeler having been at 333 00:13:49,430 --> 00:13:46,240 right ear development center 334 00:13:52,230 --> 00:13:49,440 sometime in january 1952 335 00:13:54,230 --> 00:13:52,240 a mutual friend of buns identifies as mr 336 00:13:56,550 --> 00:13:54,240 blank sugar bush road north baltimore 337 00:13:59,030 --> 00:13:56,560 michigan verified this story to wheeler 338 00:14:01,750 --> 00:13:59,040 as related above by buns concerning the 339 00:14:03,590 --> 00:14:01,760 flying saucers 340 00:14:05,509 --> 00:14:03,600 advised wheeler that a friend of his who 341 00:14:07,990 --> 00:14:05,519 works at wright patterson air force base 342 00:14:08,949 --> 00:14:08,000 ohio at present time is blank west 343 00:14:11,189 --> 00:14:08,959 spring 344 00:14:13,030 --> 00:14:11,199 uh field ohio and his friend had related 345 00:14:14,710 --> 00:14:13,040 the information to him 346 00:14:16,710 --> 00:14:14,720 playing concerning the flag saucers and 347 00:14:18,550 --> 00:14:16,720 bodies now at wright-patterson air force 348 00:14:21,750 --> 00:14:18,560 base 349 00:14:24,629 --> 00:14:21,760 prior to wheeler's transfer to reichpat 350 00:14:27,430 --> 00:14:24,639 ohio 11th of july 52 buns approached him 351 00:14:29,509 --> 00:14:27,440 and wrote out 11 questions for him 352 00:14:31,829 --> 00:14:29,519 wheeler to find the answers a photo 353 00:14:33,110 --> 00:14:31,839 stack a photostatic copy of the 354 00:14:35,590 --> 00:14:33,120 questions is attached to this 355 00:14:37,750 --> 00:14:35,600 correspondence as enclosure one 356 00:14:39,509 --> 00:14:37,760 also bunts suggested two-wheeler that 357 00:14:42,069 --> 00:14:39,519 they corresponding code concerning this 358 00:14:44,470 --> 00:14:42,079 matter and wheeler admits helping buns 359 00:14:47,189 --> 00:14:44,480 write a code system of which a 360 00:14:49,269 --> 00:14:47,199 photostatic copy was made and is 361 00:14:51,670 --> 00:14:49,279 attached to this letter as a closure 362 00:14:53,829 --> 00:14:51,680 number two 363 00:14:55,670 --> 00:14:53,839 according to wheeler a civilian employee 364 00:14:58,069 --> 00:14:55,680 right air development center at 365 00:15:00,629 --> 00:14:58,079 radiation laboratory identified only as 366 00:15:01,829 --> 00:15:00,639 blank is a good friend of blank and is 367 00:15:03,910 --> 00:15:01,839 supposed to have supplied the 368 00:15:06,150 --> 00:15:03,920 information to blank concerning the flag 369 00:15:08,710 --> 00:15:06,160 saucers being disassembled at the 370 00:15:10,389 --> 00:15:08,720 radiation laboratory and the information 371 00:15:13,350 --> 00:15:10,399 concerning the bodies that were taken to 372 00:15:16,310 --> 00:15:13,360 the aero med laboratory 373 00:15:19,110 --> 00:15:16,320 on the 13th of july 1952 wheeler typed a 374 00:15:20,710 --> 00:15:19,120 statement a photostatic copy of which is 375 00:15:23,110 --> 00:15:20,720 attached to this letter as a closure 376 00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:23,120 number three 377 00:15:28,389 --> 00:15:26,160 approximately the 20th of june 1952 378 00:15:30,710 --> 00:15:28,399 wheeler claims he wrote a complete 379 00:15:32,710 --> 00:15:30,720 report concerning the above caption 380 00:15:35,749 --> 00:15:32,720 matter and gave his report to second 381 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:35,759 lieutenant george jenna zanewski who is 382 00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:37,680 intelligence officer at headquarters 383 00:15:42,389 --> 00:15:39,680 squadron 10th air force selfridge air 384 00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:42,399 force base michigan 385 00:15:45,749 --> 00:15:44,320 at the time wheeler gave the report to 386 00:15:47,590 --> 00:15:45,759 the intelligence officer and was 387 00:15:49,509 --> 00:15:47,600 instructed by the intelligence officer 388 00:15:51,189 --> 00:15:49,519 to listen to bunts 389 00:15:53,189 --> 00:15:51,199 or anyone else 390 00:15:54,870 --> 00:15:53,199 who had knowledge of flying saucers and 391 00:15:56,550 --> 00:15:54,880 report back to him 392 00:15:59,990 --> 00:15:56,560 any information he might obtain 393 00:16:04,069 --> 00:16:01,990 during the month of june wheeler claims 394 00:16:06,790 --> 00:16:04,079 he went to the base library selfridge 395 00:16:08,790 --> 00:16:06,800 air force base and drew a book entitled 396 00:16:11,189 --> 00:16:08,800 behind the flying saucers by frank 397 00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:11,199 scully 398 00:16:15,749 --> 00:16:13,120 this was first suggested by sergeant 399 00:16:17,430 --> 00:16:15,759 bunce wheeler claims and after reading 400 00:16:19,269 --> 00:16:17,440 the book he found it contained the same 401 00:16:20,790 --> 00:16:19,279 information as related to him by 402 00:16:23,910 --> 00:16:20,800 sergeant bunce concerning the flying 403 00:16:25,670 --> 00:16:23,920 saucers with this exception 404 00:16:27,590 --> 00:16:25,680 in the book there is no mention made of 405 00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:27,600 flying saucers being disassembled that 406 00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:29,199 bright pad 407 00:16:33,430 --> 00:16:31,600 at the radiation laboratory no mention 408 00:16:35,509 --> 00:16:33,440 made about the bodies inside the saucers 409 00:16:38,550 --> 00:16:35,519 being taken to aeromed laboratory ray 410 00:16:41,749 --> 00:16:38,560 patterson for further study 411 00:16:43,430 --> 00:16:41,759 a review of file number 24-21 at 412 00:16:45,990 --> 00:16:43,440 headquarters fifth osi district 413 00:16:48,389 --> 00:16:46,000 reflected a photostack photostatic copy 414 00:16:50,790 --> 00:16:48,399 of the statement to the intelligence 415 00:16:53,590 --> 00:16:50,800 office selfridge air force base 416 00:16:55,269 --> 00:16:53,600 mentioned above and also reflected a 417 00:16:57,590 --> 00:16:55,279 letter of transmittal from the air 418 00:17:00,629 --> 00:16:57,600 provost marshal selfridge air force base 419 00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:00,639 michigan wherein the marshal stated it 420 00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:02,880 is his belief a1c wheeler may be 421 00:17:07,829 --> 00:17:04,559 attempting to draw attention to himself 422 00:17:10,470 --> 00:17:07,839 to further his invention 423 00:17:13,429 --> 00:17:10,480 or a possible security league may exist 424 00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:13,439 in the flank saucer program 425 00:17:18,309 --> 00:17:16,079 our next bit of information isn't a 426 00:17:19,909 --> 00:17:18,319 government document i must say but it 427 00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:19,919 does come from 428 00:17:22,949 --> 00:17:20,799 um 429 00:17:25,750 --> 00:17:22,959 decades-long ufo researcher and 430 00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:25,760 investigative journalist george knapp 431 00:17:33,750 --> 00:17:30,320 the picture comes to us by a danny silva 432 00:17:35,110 --> 00:17:33,760 of the silver record 433 00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:35,120 george knapp 434 00:17:39,750 --> 00:17:37,679 in a recent interview on coast to coast 435 00:17:42,230 --> 00:17:39,760 with christopher sharp of liberation 436 00:17:43,669 --> 00:17:42,240 times stated this 437 00:17:45,270 --> 00:17:43,679 it's clear that somebody has been 438 00:17:48,070 --> 00:17:45,280 sharing information with congress 439 00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:48,080 members i can tell for sure that there 440 00:17:53,430 --> 00:17:50,880 are people who have met them and have 441 00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:53,440 told them not only that there are these 442 00:17:57,830 --> 00:17:55,760 legacy programs that have materials and 443 00:18:00,870 --> 00:17:57,840 by materials i don't mean just scraps of 444 00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:00,880 metal from the ground but intact craft 445 00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:03,760 remains physical remains of beings 446 00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:06,240 those stories have been floating around 447 00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:08,240 for a long time i know that there are a 448 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:10,240 couple of people in particular who know 449 00:18:14,230 --> 00:18:12,000 about this stuff down to the point of 450 00:18:15,510 --> 00:18:14,240 where the buildings and where this stuff 451 00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:15,520 is stashed 452 00:18:19,590 --> 00:18:17,520 who are willing to come forward if they 453 00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:19,600 are protected now this legislation 454 00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:21,760 indicates that they will be protected as 455 00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:23,760 whistleblowers that their security 456 00:18:28,230 --> 00:18:26,240 clearances will not be revoked and it's 457 00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:28,240 pretty exciting so who are the beings 458 00:18:33,190 --> 00:18:31,039 piloting these ufos are we talking 459 00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:33,200 extraterrestrial ultra-terrestrial time 460 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:35,440 travelers or are they simply part of an 461 00:18:39,909 --> 00:18:37,840 ancient civilization hiding from the bad 462 00:18:41,669 --> 00:18:39,919 habits of mankind 463 00:18:44,230 --> 00:18:41,679 well there is evidence for all in some 464 00:18:46,070 --> 00:18:44,240 way shape or form and ufos come in all 465 00:18:50,950 --> 00:18:46,080 sorts of different descriptions such as 466 00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:55,270 giant fuselages without wings or tail 467 00:18:59,270 --> 00:18:57,280 now with all these different forms of 468 00:19:01,350 --> 00:18:59,280 appearances it placed directly into the 469 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:01,360 idea that there are various forms of 470 00:19:06,549 --> 00:19:04,240 beings visiting this earth and possibly 471 00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:06,559 living on this earth right underneath 472 00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:10,480 our noses so to speak 473 00:19:14,789 --> 00:19:12,880 so how can we determine what beings want 474 00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:14,799 with us this earth or anything else for 475 00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:16,720 that matter well we have to listen to 476 00:19:20,710 --> 00:19:18,000 the witnesses 477 00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:20,720 who have encountered these beings 478 00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:22,960 what if they said what happened 479 00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:27,120 and what can we determine if anything 480 00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:28,720 well i'm about to play a clip for you 481 00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:31,919 that dates back to 1989 in climax 482 00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:33,840 springs in missouri 483 00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:35,840 where a man has a 484 00:19:40,710 --> 00:19:38,480 intense encounter with three 485 00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:40,720 cigar-shaped craft 486 00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:42,640 and he lays out some very significant 487 00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:47,200 insight into what may be going on here 488 00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:49,360 in fact instances like this could be why 489 00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:53,039 some call the beings the observers 490 00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:55,280 in this bit of testimony we can say not 491 00:19:59,430 --> 00:19:57,280 only did the beings want to conduct 492 00:20:01,510 --> 00:19:59,440 observation but they were forceful in 493 00:20:03,430 --> 00:20:01,520 doing so 494 00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:03,440 almost as if they came a long distance 495 00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:07,520 to tour the sioux we call earth 496 00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:09,360 and wanted to make sure those who paid 497 00:20:14,789 --> 00:20:11,520 their attendance could look at the face 498 00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:14,799 of the humans who occupy it 499 00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:16,799 they offered 300 feet from me and stared 500 00:20:21,430 --> 00:20:19,200 at me like i was a 501 00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:21,440 a zebra in the zoo 502 00:20:26,149 --> 00:20:23,200 like there was a lion in a cage you know 503 00:20:28,950 --> 00:20:26,159 a uh an insect in a char 504 00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:28,960 three craft directly overhead directly 505 00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:31,200 overhead i saw their faces looking out 506 00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:33,120 the windows at me man pointing at me 507 00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:34,720 with their fingers we're not talking 508 00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:36,480 about one 509 00:20:40,549 --> 00:20:39,039 talking about three crafts 510 00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:40,559 i know there's nothing like this ever 511 00:20:44,870 --> 00:20:41,679 happened to me in my life you know what 512 00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:44,880 i'm saying my body wasn't able to move 513 00:20:49,510 --> 00:20:47,520 i was not able to move 514 00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:49,520 be it however you want to praise them 515 00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:51,600 people creatures whatever 516 00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:54,080 could all see me very plainly so they 517 00:20:57,029 --> 00:20:55,679 looked at me and totally cocked their 518 00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:57,039 hands and pointed like i was an 519 00:21:00,710 --> 00:20:59,280 exhibition in a zoo 520 00:21:02,070 --> 00:21:00,720 i mean i'm telling you right now buddy 521 00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:02,080 i'm i'm sitting here not knowing what 522 00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:04,240 the hell to think 523 00:21:09,110 --> 00:21:07,679 heads were human shaped 524 00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:09,120 you could tell that there was eyes in 525 00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:11,039 the head you could tell us the eyes were 526 00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:13,520 large there was no visual appearances of 527 00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:17,120 hair or ears from what i could see 528 00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:19,440 but the light was so bright emanating 529 00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:21,360 from inside this craft 530 00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:23,600 that uh they looked like they were bald 531 00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:25,360 with no ears but but there was no way to 532 00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:27,520 really tell but they were definitely had 533 00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:29,200 a human head shape they definitely had a 534 00:21:32,710 --> 00:21:30,799 human-shaped body they definitely stood 535 00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:32,720 behind these windows and pointed at me 536 00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:34,799 and these crafts had 537 00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:36,480 they looked like a jet airliner with no 538 00:21:40,630 --> 00:21:38,640 wings and tail okay when they hovered in 539 00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:40,640 the air to stare at me 540 00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:43,120 it was like i was on visual show 541 00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:45,280 at a zoo you know what i'm saying right 542 00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:46,720 and you can see these rows of windows 543 00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:48,080 going down the side and they were 544 00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:50,559 identical just virtually identical to 545 00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:51,679 the rows of windows that you would see 546 00:21:55,029 --> 00:21:54,000 on an airliner 547 00:21:57,909 --> 00:21:55,039 and there was 548 00:22:00,549 --> 00:21:57,919 beings behind each one of these windows 549 00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:00,559 they were looking at me and pointing 550 00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:02,320 and i could have seen their faces and 551 00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:04,799 their features very clearly it wouldn't 552 00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:06,720 been to the fact that the light was so 553 00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:11,190 my body 554 00:22:14,870 --> 00:22:13,200 could not move i wanted to scream for my 555 00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:14,880 girlfriend my sister-in-law my mother 556 00:22:18,789 --> 00:22:16,799 and my brother and the seven children 557 00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:18,799 that were in the house come look too i 558 00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:20,400 was not able 559 00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:21,600 to move 560 00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:23,760 i tried to scream 561 00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:26,880 the minute they ceased with looking at 562 00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,760 me 563 00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:29,360 and so to speak 564 00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:31,520 and started to move off without making a 565 00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:32,960 sound 566 00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:34,559 and there was no change in these lights 567 00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:36,000 that was shining out from behind it were 568 00:22:40,149 --> 00:22:38,080 just like headlights and fog okay 569 00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:40,159 because they're shrouded 570 00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:41,679 started moving out across the lake at 571 00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:44,559 the 51 mon marker here in mid missouri 572 00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:46,320 brother and i jumped in my car then and 573 00:22:49,510 --> 00:22:47,679 drove to the top of the hill as these 574 00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:49,520 things were going over the lake and on 575 00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:51,440 their way out of sight 576 00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:53,280 the sky is totally clear here there's 577 00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:56,000 not a cloud in the sky speak out none 578 00:23:00,789 --> 00:22:58,480 okay these things were clouded in a 579 00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:00,799 shroud of mist three of them 580 00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:03,200 cigar shaped pods on the end of them 581 00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:04,480 green doors on the top shining 582 00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:05,919 headlights out the back of these pots 583 00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:08,000 just like headlights in the fog of a car 584 00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:10,240 i don't know man i lost up track of time 585 00:23:13,370 --> 00:23:12,159 i lost on track of anything like that i 586 00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:13,380 mean i was so 587 00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:14,799 [Applause] 588 00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:16,640 i was so immersed in what was happening 589 00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,159 here last thing i was going to worry 590 00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:20,320 about was looking at a goddamn clock 591 00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:23,039 but two people that stopped to talk to 592 00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:23,760 me 593 00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:26,799 that i do and live on the lake here with 594 00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:28,080 me 595 00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:31,200 top of the hill in the dark stand on top 596 00:23:33,990 --> 00:23:32,720 of my car with binoculars they stopped 597 00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:34,000 you know you saw it too didn't you they 598 00:23:36,390 --> 00:23:35,039 rolled down the 599 00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:36,400 to window you saw it too i said yeah i 600 00:23:40,149 --> 00:23:38,080 saw it what did you see 601 00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:40,159 i said three cigars shaped aircraft 602 00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:42,559 hovering in a mist of fog 603 00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:44,559 no noise they said that's exactly what 604 00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:46,080 we saw we saw it crossed over highway 605 00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:48,320 seven we pulled off our car our truck 606 00:23:51,750 --> 00:23:50,400 off the side of the road shut off a 607 00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:51,760 motor shut up our headlights got out 608 00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:53,039 with our cameras 609 00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:54,240 and you know what really bugged me about 610 00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:56,000 it they told me they were unable to 611 00:24:01,029 --> 00:23:57,360 remove 612 00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:02,310 that was the only thing you know those 613 00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:04,080 people yeah i do know them personally 614 00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:05,600 they're my neighbors they stopped and 615 00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:07,520 got out tried to photograph it 616 00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:08,799 and the only thing that really bugged me 617 00:24:12,789 --> 00:24:10,880 or what they said was for they go but we 618 00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:12,799 couldn't get the lenses off a camera why 619 00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:14,880 couldn't they now this really bugged me 620 00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:17,200 because i'm going to tell you what buddy 621 00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:19,520 whatever these three things were 622 00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:21,039 and i'm not necessarily a believer in 623 00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:23,520 jesus and i ain't necessarily from ufos 624 00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:24,960 but i'll tell you what i saw three 625 00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:27,520 things as big as jet airliners however 626 00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:29,520 300 feet above my head atops the trees 627 00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:32,080 here in the woods around my house 628 00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:33,600 and they over there without a sound in a 629 00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:36,240 cloud of mist and as they stopped dead 630 00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:37,760 they missed thinned out enough that i 631 00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:39,200 could see that there was 632 00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:40,799 windows going down the side of these 633 00:24:43,269 --> 00:24:41,679 things 634 00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:43,279 you know what it gave me the idea like a 635 00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:44,720 carnival cruise or something you know 636 00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:46,480 weird it was like something told me turn 637 00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,760 around 638 00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:49,360 and my body all of a sudden reverts 639 00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:52,080 around as it does i look up in the sky 640 00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:53,840 and just like out of the movie like a 641 00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:55,200 polar kind or something man i mean this 642 00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:56,720 isn't even this isn't even real i don't 643 00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:57,760 know how i can even talk to you about 644 00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:00,400 this but i got to talk to somebody 645 00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:03,679 and whatever was on board was peeking 646 00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:05,679 out the windows like people looking out 647 00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:07,200 the windows of a bus you know what i'm 648 00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:09,039 saying did you have a chance to count 649 00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:11,279 the number of those lighted openings 650 00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:13,520 well there again 651 00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:14,799 i 652 00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,720 wasn't 653 00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:24,240 for some reason 654 00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:26,640 and this is what scares me the most and 655 00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:28,799 what's got me upset the most is i wasn't 656 00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:31,440 able to scream to anybody in the house 657 00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:33,600 my body froze dead still i wasn't able 658 00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:36,159 to move as these things hovered there 659 00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:38,000 that's still in the air 660 00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:39,360 i couldn't move until they started to 661 00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:41,679 move away when they started to move away 662 00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:44,400 then all of a sudden i could move again 663 00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:46,000 there was at least 664 00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:52,070 1520s minimum but to be honest with you 665 00:25:56,789 --> 00:25:55,279 i'm so upset from the situation 666 00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:56,799 i can't tell you if they were square 667 00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:58,320 around okay 668 00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:59,919 and the light was coming out of them so 669 00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:01,440 brightly that it would be hard to tell 670 00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:03,760 if they were square around 671 00:26:07,669 --> 00:26:05,600 there was an incredible light coming out 672 00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:07,679 of the inside of the thing 673 00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:10,159 but the light undoubtedly showed the 674 00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:12,080 fact that there was beings creatures 675 00:26:16,149 --> 00:26:14,080 whatever you want to turn it behind each 676 00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:16,159 and every window 677 00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:18,240 looking out and playing so i mean there 678 00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:19,520 were several of them that were pointing 679 00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:20,799 at me 680 00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:21,600 right 681 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:24,400 like i was an exhibit at the zoo an 682 00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:25,760 aquarium 683 00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,840 and they stopped their dead end and what 684 00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:29,200 really got me was the way they hovered 685 00:26:32,789 --> 00:26:31,440 into a stair-step position the closest 686 00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:32,799 one moved up 687 00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:34,640 the middle one moved down a little and 688 00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:36,320 the one on the farthest probably moved 689 00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:38,080 down even yet to where damn near touched 690 00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:39,760 the treetops here now i'm talking we're 691 00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:41,919 talking this craft was six feet over the 692 00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:44,080 trees and this mist was covering 693 00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:45,600 engulfing the trees on top of the hill 694 00:26:50,070 --> 00:26:48,559 about 200 feet 300 feet above me okay 695 00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:50,080 and they moved down in stair steps so 696 00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:52,960 that all three craft i i looked at all 697 00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:54,240 three rows of windows done all three 698 00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:56,320 crafts and all and i could see 699 00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:57,760 these occupants whatever you want to 700 00:27:01,669 --> 00:26:59,760 turn them turning them in all three 701 00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:01,679 windows and all three sets of windows 702 00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:02,799 going down these crafts and they were 703 00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:04,720 looking at me they were staring at me 704 00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:06,559 they were definitely i don't know you 705 00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:08,960 know you read about these things in in 706 00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:11,279 in the papers and and said they were 707 00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:14,640 definitely humanoid looking okay as far 708 00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:16,960 as i could see they 709 00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:18,559 they had arms that they could point at 710 00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:19,520 me 711 00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:20,960 like like you and i would point at 712 00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:23,679 something look at that ant on the ground 713 00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:25,520 uh they had heads that were shaped like 714 00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:26,960 ours as far as whether or not they had 715 00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:29,440 ears they had hair i have no idea the 716 00:27:33,190 --> 00:27:30,880 light was too bright but they endowed 717 00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:33,200 they had two eyes 718 00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:35,440 you can see these areas that appeared 719 00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:36,559 dark 720 00:27:41,909 --> 00:27:38,960 were 721 00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:41,919 it was it was darker that it was 722 00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:43,520 like even though the light was so 723 00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:44,799 intensely bright you could see that 724 00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:46,559 there was undoubtedly two eyes i don't 725 00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:47,919 know how to explain it to you the way it 726 00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,360 looked but you could see that you know 727 00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:51,360 there was undoubtedly two eyes on here 728 00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:53,919 on every head and they were undoubtedly 729 00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:56,080 carrying on the conversation 730 00:27:58,710 --> 00:27:57,279 because the way their heads were 731 00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:58,720 pointing and looking at each other while 732 00:28:01,909 --> 00:27:59,919 they pointed you know you could tell 733 00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:01,919 these things were talking about the fact 734 00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:03,200 that i was saying down there on the 735 00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:04,399 ground 736 00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:06,399 if you peel the wings and tail off the 737 00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:09,919 747 you got it 738 00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:12,000 thank you for joining me on today's 739 00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,559 episode of witness citizen 740 00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:16,320 where we looked at what i like to call 741 00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:19,679 the original wilson davis notes of 1952 742 00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:22,880 and then again in 1953 what does this 743 00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:25,360 all mean well i would say that if there 744 00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:28,799 is smoke there is fire 745 00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:30,399 and we also 746 00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:33,200 went back to 1989 and listened to what i 747 00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:34,240 consider 748 00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:37,120 one of the most convincing recorded 749 00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:40,080 testimonies on record 750 00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:42,640 i hope you will join me next time 751 00:28:51,770 --> 00:28:48,950 witness 752 00:29:13,470 --> 00:28:51,780 citizens 753 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:13,480 [Music] 754 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